Opponent = Marshall. Count me as disappointed with that one.

Hey Army Fans and GBK Subscribers,

As you know, GBK is always attempting to come up with ideas to ensure that during this offseason, but honestly, all the time ... the 12th Knight message board is active, engaging, and interactive.

That being said and again, here we are in June and one thread that we want to start is called "Best Non-Army Football Sports Thing I Saw Today!".



Needless to say there are so many sports-related topics, so this is not a matter of BEST topic per se, but more so what caught your eye and others can talk about it or add their own Best Non-Army Football Sports Thing I Saw Today.

There are a couple of topics that caught my attention from yesterday’s sports activities, but I am going to allow the fans here to chime in first …

… SO LET’S KICK THIS OFF RIGHT NOW!

A very good 2024 class signed their letters of intent, off to the next one!!! I really think our coaching staff is going to take it up a notch on the recruiting

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Any thoughts on bowls you are watching

I have talked to several folks from fans to parents of players, coaches, and administrators on the topic of the Transfer Portal.

I have read a few articles that range from”

• The pros and cons for young athletes when it comes to the college transfer portal
• Is the Transfer Portal Helping or Hurting College Athletic Programs?

I have drawn my conclusions, but this is less about what I think about the subject and more about what the Army fans here on GBK have to say about the transfer portal. And not only what it means or how you feel relative Army West Point athletics, but the sphere of college athletics as a whole.

Please Chime In …

Measuring athletic success at a SA is tough, whether it is club, NCAA, or D1 football.

What are the absolute goals? Conference, regional, or national success is important. However, developing leaders of character is the stated mission. Producing future leaders for the Army is paramount but there are many elements that are factors must be considered. How do you evaluate a coach or a program?
What’s more important; a winning conference/national record vs high graduation rate and performance in the corps? Performance in the Army is the main goal but adds many factors beyond a coaches control. It’s hard to measure or determine cause and effect?
Where is the magic marker that describes a successful program/coach? Army/Navy record? Conference record? Team QPA? Number of leaders in the corps? Number of Combat Arms grads? Retention rate in the Army?
Does a high representation of leaders in the corps mean anything?
Does a high winning record mean anything?
Does a winning record versus the other SAs help?
Good donor relations?
Good parent relations?
Good national image?
What else are we looking for?

HC Jeff Monken chimes in on several topics including the 12/28 Bowl Game, Transfer Portal, etc. Also, Post-Practice Video Interview with GBK's Joe Iacono and RB, Hayden Reed.


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HOW DOES THE ENTIRE COACHING STAFF AND TEAM JUST NOT SHOW UP ON SATURDAY?

As we all know, there are several former players who are currently playing in the NFL.

So all comments, opinions and thoughts around this subject are welcome.

As it has been with every college football program in the country since FOREVER, recruiting of high school players is the mainstay or a major part of the success or failure of a program.

However, as we see today and just look at Rivals and others, the Transfer Portal content is almost equal to or getting close to the high school recruiting coverage, especially this time of year.

So, with many college players who are freshmen and who have submitted their names into the portal and here is my question … WOULD IT NOT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO GO AFTER SAID PLAYERS WHO FIT THE CRITERIA that we expect a high school senior to have”

For example, Dartmouth DL Josiah Green transfers to Duke. This young man most likely has the grads and football talents that would fit us and therefore, it would be worth at least exploring his interest or lack thereof when it comes to West Point and Army football

Feel free to add your funny stories, GIFs, pics, etc.

HOWEVER, please keep your post clean and respectful.

I will start it off ...



FACT OF THE DAY: The phrase, "Don't take this the wrong way" has a zero percent success rate.

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Location: Northwest Stadium – Landover, MD

• Kickoff Time: 3:00 PM Eastern, Saturday, December 14th

• GBK Cover-It-Live Opens: Saturday (12/14) @3:00am EST (however anyone can chime in at any time prior to and of course during the game)

• TV: CBS

You can enter the LIVE CHAT through either of the following two message boards (which is where the LIVE chat will take place)…

... Premium (CLICK HERE - The 12th Knight) or Non-Premium (CLICK HERE - Army Black Knights Football) door!

PRE-GAME & GAME TIME SPECIAL​

• Special: The Army-Navy 2024 Premium Forum is LIVE!


With that being said, “Who’s Got Their Game Face On? .... Because It Is Showtime once again for the Black Knights”


See you back here at 3:30 pm EST on Saturday (if not sooner) and even if you are taking in the game LIVE as will our GBK Team, you can still jump on either of the COVER-IT-LIVE Threads (The 12th Knight or Army Black Knights Football Message Boards).

• THIS IS LIVE & COMMENTS ON THIS THREAD AND RELATIVE TO PRE-GAME CHATTER ... BUT, IT CAN START ANYTIME (FROM NOW - END OF THE GAME).

• NEEDLESS TO SAY, WE HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE HERE WITH YOUR GAME FACE ON.


NOTE: The most active fan participation with The LIVE Chat is on the 12th Knight premium message board. In addition, there will be minimum moderation of these threads, although GBK Recruiting Analyst A.M. Allan will be peeking in from time to time throughout the contest.

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Army named Winners of the 2024 Joe Moore Award for Most Outstanding O-Line in College Football over Alabama, Indiana, Iowa, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oregon, Tennessee, Texas & Tulane


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OK, I woke up about 4 am this morning, and started thinking about this subject, as I read a post last night about how Navy lost to Army partly because of having played in the AAC Championship game the week before the 2016 Army-Navy game; so having no bye week before the game.

Back in the 1970s and 1980s, the Army-Navy game was on the Saturday after Thanksgiving. And several posters have mentioned maybe we ought to return to that. Or maybe a game on either Thanksgiving Day or Friday sometimes.

I think our AD ought to call his counterpart at Annapolis about this, and for both of them to approach the AAC Commissioner about moving the game to that week. I would suggest that the AAC always schedule a bye week for Army and Navy on the Saturday before Thanksgiving AND now count the Army-Navy game as an AAC conference game. This would cause all FBS teams to end their regular seasons on Thanksgiving weekend. And Conference Championship week follows. Note that the CFP scheduled two weeks between the rounds of its play-off games.

Of course, Army and Navy will have to talk to both CBS and the NFL Stadiums scheduled for the Army-Navy game in future years. Now some stadiums may not be able to handle a game on Saturday and have their NFL team play on Sunday, but (1) the NFL could easily make it an away game that weekend for that team OR (2) have them play on Thanksgiving, Sunday evening, or Monday evening. I believe that the University of Pittsburgh Panthers have played several Saturday games at the Steeler's stadium, with the Steelers playing the next day on Sunday. As for CBS, I think they can figure things out, does Auburn and Alabama always have to play at 3:30 pm on Thanksgiving Saturday? And CBS can use their streaming platform to show the March-ons and Pre-Game build up. And if CBS does not want to play, bet NBC or ESPN/ABC would.

Now will the AAC play and always schedule A-N on the last week of the regular season. Hmm, the SEC does, as Tennessee-Vanderbilt, Alabama-Auburn, Mississippi-Mississippi State play that weekend almost every year. And the Big Ten has rival games scheduled on the last week, like Ohio State-Michigan, Illinois-Northwestern, and Purdue-Indiana. Plus Army and Navy would have a bye weekend before their season ending game, and both ought to have a bye weekend before their annual games with Air Force. Note, that in most seasons, AFA has a bye week before playing Army.

One benefit for Army would be that the first three weeks of the season would be non-conference games, just like most everybody else. Do you think Florida Atlantic and Rice wanted to play conference games on the second and third weekends like they did this season? So Army would not have two non-conference games in November like this season, only Air Force.

Now for USMA, I think they can tweak the academic calendar and have only Monday classes, bonfire that night, and maybe Tuesday morning classes, and then let the Cadets go on Thanksgiving leave on Tuesday afternoon (better day to travel, and cheaper); with the Corps having to report 3-4 hours before kickoff for the March-on (or the night before to West Point to ride the buses).

Of course, this proposal might be put into the "Too Hard to Do" box. However, both Army and Navy deserve to have two weeks to prepare for the Game. And if no one wants to budge and move the Army-Navy game to Thanksgiving, then maybe Army decides in some future season that playing in another AAC Championship Game is a bridge too far.