By whatever means necessary? Like tactical nukes?
I think maybe we should use proportionate, lawful actions to stop criminals.
And what (proportionate) action are you referring to? Just asking
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By whatever means necessary? Like tactical nukes?
I think maybe we should use proportionate, lawful actions to stop criminals.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportionality_(law)And what (proportionate) action are you referring to? Just asking
Wow @Bulletproof09...
I'm sorry but you make Trump's announcement sound nothing like it's intent in my opinion. For me it's my opinion he is virtually the only leader with a plan of "action" to stop wide spread violence, riots, and criminals intent on vandalizing and destroying inocent citizens' rights for their pursuits of freedom, security and to prevent their businesses being destroyed by those intent on tearing down our democratic American heritage. Any person intent on exercising their constitutional rights to protest peacably would then be protected by his actions.
Tell us with honesty...what are state governors or city mayors doing other than cowering in fear or intimidation in the path of these anarchists and pure criminal elements. I don't see them protecting civil liberties or the peaceful rights of true "protesters". My opinion.... Very sad display of weak governments that are failing it's constituents. I for one support his plans and hope he does what he says.
I know this thread is titled 'Will college football programs be impacted by today's tension?"
Heck, will NFL locker rooms and teams be impacted as well?
New Orleans Saints' Malcolm Jenkins to teammate Drew Brees: 'You're part of the problem'
YES, football programs and many other "American" institutions are being adversely affected by this situation and wedges are being unfortunately driven in between groups of individuals who otherwise work well together in their support of common goals. In that context I attempt to keep this thread honest to the question posed.
My positions are (and I hope stated clearly):
- It is extremely obvious that I have my opinion and others have theirs, and that both sides have legitimate points. Give me that at least.
- Every person (regardless of what personal opinions or side they fall on) likely will not be convinced by any opposing post here to change their thinking.
- Further, I admit how incredibly challenging to peaceful discourse it is that opposite sides of this conversation will take the exact same facts or events and with conviction come to completely opposite conclusions. Don't know how to bring everyone to a similar conclusion, and I supposrt opposing opinions when great and helpful discussion brings a consensus. Compromise only creates winners and losers. Consensus brings us to a place where everyone can support the results.
- There are lots of very smart individuals with time on their hands that can scan the internet for far reaching statistics to support their points of view.
So, my point supports stopping the rioting & criminal activity and protect the honest and innocent protesters, those scared-out-of-their-mind residents in these cities, and then uphold the rule of law with appropriate and restrained force. The rule of law is only just that when those rules are enforced equally for everyone.
- So...no one in their right mind can watch the video of that police officer in Minneapolis and conclude that the death of Mr. Floyd was justifiable. (100%) That officer IMHO should be convicted along with his other three helping officers and punished to the full extent of the law. But it needs to be done with absolute equal justice under our laws. Not with any swift lynching mentality.
- By the same measure of certainty...the vast, vast, and potentially 99.99% of other law enforcement professionals feel that same way, and that hopefully those good officers trying to dutifully uphold the laws will never be grouped in the same category as who committed this awful crime. Unfortunately, ALL police seem to be the targets and groupd along with the criminal police officer anyway.
- That there are justifiable reasons both white and black Americans protest their beliefs, and so long as they do so without violence I fully support it. An unfortunate element of this situation is that criminal and other bad people are co-opting "good" "Peaceful" protesters by using them as shields to create havoc and riot.
- No violent rioting should be tolerated, especially that which targets any American person, business, or government agency and that ultimately is seen as perpetrated by criminal or anarchist group subverting the rule of law.
- I have seen the video of wanton destruction of innocent American's property and livelihoods, the murdering of at least one police officer and the beating of individuals attempting to protect their homes and businesses. No way is any of that justifiable yet well-known politicians or even professional athletes say it is. Very sad.
- The rule of law which is what MAKES US ALL FREE AND SAFE IN THE BEST COUNTRY IN THIS WORLD has been hijacked by an incredibly small minority of bad people, criminals, or others with an anti-American agenda.
So, who has been effectively thwarting the evil criminal elements? That is the question and the problem.
You nor I know if he apologized for the backlash. But maybe, just maybe he felt his comments were wrong after conversing with other and that's okay with me. Come on, your comments are just as bad if you can't allow a person to apologize and ask for forgiveness and move on.
Had he not apologized, you would have continued to criticize him. #Can'tWinForLosing #SMH
Tactical nuke was sarcasm in response to "by whatever means necessary." That could possibly include something like shooting someone who was walking away from a store with looted items.ok again what do you think would be appropriate? I know the meaning, you mention tactical Nuck. So I’m sure you was being sarcastic, however I just felt the need to ask you
More recent updated on FSU, Wilson, Norvell - https://www.espn.com/college-footba...son-thanks-coach-mike-norvell-earlier-dispute
I have nothing for respect for him recognizing that he made a mistake took responsibility for it.
Are you really a racist if you want to stand and honor the flag during the National Anthem? If so - I am a racist
The QB of the NO Saints - Drew Brees - made a statement during an interview that he believed in standing and showing respect for the flag during the playing of the National Anthem. To say the least - the black players on his team and in the NFL reacted VERY STRONGLY in a negative way. Brees immediately reversed himself and apologized to everyone in sight for expressing that opinion. A seemingly strong man caved in immediately under pressure.
Are you really a racist if you want to stand and honor the flag during the National Anthem? If so - I am a racist
The QB of the NO Saints - Drew Brees - made a statement during an interview that he believed in standing and showing respect for the flag during the playing of the National Anthem. To say the least - the black players on his team and in the NFL reacted VERY STRONGLY in a negative way. Brees immediately reversed himself and apologized to everyone in sight for expressing that opinion. A seemingly strong man caved in immediately under pressure.
I find this trend quite disturbing, and if continued will definately impact and continue the tensions in this country,,,thereby affecting even the sport of football we all love so much.
So are the opinions of those more liberal or leaning in any other direction the only thoughts in our America that count, and how in the world is everything people do in their personal lives which are not directed towrds any person be interpreted and scrutinized as a racial slur insensitive to a certain segment of people. WOW....
Very sorry state of affairs. Am I right in interpreting Hubbard as saying nobody (in his mind) should be a conservative? (OAN)
Why is wearting a T-shirt suddenly become racist or insensitive? Must only individuals who are liberal be considered able to be "politically correct"?
What has this society come to?
That's not what my mind says is right....anyone has the right to their personal perspectives and should not be immediately threatened or intimidated to appologize or cower to some other's way of thinking.
Players have the right to kneel during the National Anthem - people also have the right to object to that action and take any legal action - like not support that team, verbally object, not hire that person, not support the sponsor of the event etc..